ArchiveBeg to Differ podcast: Don’t count your votes before they ‘Hatch’Bryan Schott·August 25, 2017· Share Bryan Schott and Mike Winder make you the smartest person in the room when you discuss politics. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke is recommending the reduction of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante National Monuments. What’s the endgame? Why is this such a legislative priority. Sen. Orrin Hatch is putting off a decision about his political future. We discuss why that helps him and possibly hurts those who want to run for his seat. We talk with Rich McKeown of Count My Vote about the likelihood that they’ll re-launch their ballot initiative next year to eliminate the caucus/convention system for getting on the ballot. Plus, the “simultaneous game” chews over a possible government shutdown.